BCSE Breaks Down the COP 30 Negotiations on the Energy Gang Podcast
November 14, 2025

BCSE President Lisa Jacobson appeared on the Energy Gang podcast alongside Amy Myers Jaffe, Director of NYU’s Energy, Climate Justice, and Sustainability Lab; and Amy Harder, National Energy Correspondent at Axios. While previous COPs have generally put the most emphasis on government action, Lisa explained that a focus on what’s good for business might be a better way to spur change. Clean energy technologies are winning in many markets around the world because they make commercial sense. Policy can be helpful, but is it ultimately the business case that has to be what pushes the energy transition forward?

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